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jnights from Las Vegas (Contact Member) -

This thread was inspired by a previous thread in this section regarding the usage of CSS. I have been involved in a lot of discussions regarding the elimination of HTML tables and the usage of CSS to replace them.

What are your thoughts and experiences on this topic?

Comment #1 delino from California (Contact Member) -

Very interesting topic. Thanks for raising this issue. I like CSS a lot and have also read up a lot about this. I say go for the CSS solution and move away from tables. Just like frames they are outdated and not the way to go anymore. Sure tables are still fine and useful, but it's better to move to the more modern approach which is CSS.

Comment #2 Nancy from Los Angeles (Contact Member) -

I notice many CSS based websites (when viewing in Opera) load up really ugly and then suddenly shift into their defined format.

I suppose this is the difference between waiting for all the table info to load, or waiting for all the css info to load.

Comment #3 Dixie from Somewhere Over The Rainbow (Contact Member) -

After reading here that the whole table has to load before it appears, it's made me realize that tables probably aren't a very good idea anymore. It would give the impression that it's a slow loading site, and nobody wants that. I think it's wise to steer clear of tables whenever possible.

Comment #4 delino from California (Contact Member) -

I personally don't have much issue with sites that load a certain way and then shift into position. It can actually look kind of cool at times :) I'm not saying that tables are necessarily a bad way to go, I just think that maybe the shift to CSS is an important one to be aware of and to consider on each project.

Comment #5 Nancy from Los Angeles (Contact Member) -

I think some of the browsers do that with tables... show them as they come in and then shift them into position.

Comment #6 jnights from Las Vegas (Contact Member) -

Funny thing is that after starting this thread we ran into an issue on a project where it was becoming such a headache we decided to just throw the one section into a table. Worked like a charm although we did feel wrong about doing it because everything else was being done in CSS.

Comment #7 Fred from NYC (Contact Member) -

tables are tables. css is css.

Though they may have some overlap neither is a replacement for the other.

Comment #8 Megan from My Dorm Room (Contact Member) -

I think just do the best thing that works for you. Whether you choose table or css, it really doesn't matter as long as you are pleased with the finished product.

Comment #9 Nancy from Los Angeles (Contact Member) -

I find a lot of the CSS designs that come in and then shift are obnoxious. The tables seem to load a bit smoother. This is using Firefox and a 385K connection.

Not all site load this way, I suspect it is using extension CSS files that are delayed in their loading/processing.

One of my credit card companies home page loads the login button LAST... and there is no spot to click before the button loads. That is truely obnoxious as I want to login not wait for their crappy home page to load. Maybe it is intentional so I do have to look at all their crap. Maybe it is a poor design.

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